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If you have the TV on for any length of time, you're likely going to see commercial that says Milk Life.
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This is extolling the virtues of milk and dairy.
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Now it is over there with the quizzical look, because Milk Life.
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What does that mean?
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We've not really heard the message of Milk Life all that much because we got rid of cable TV.
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What 17 years ago?
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I'm just sitting here thinking when did that become a thing, and what does that even mean?
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It's so nebulous milk life.
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That was actually the word I was thinking of nebulous.
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It's one of those things where it kind of sounds good.
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Maybe it's borrowing from that whole salt life type campaign.
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Oh, that's what it is.
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Well, I don't know, but it sounds good.
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But previously what we had heard was got Milk.
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We grew up on Got Milk, and it's very clever, right.
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We didn't grow up on Got Milk.
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Got Milk started in 1993.
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No way, the year we got married, oh, it did so prior to that, we grew up on milk.
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It does a body good.
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Yes, that campaign ran until 1994, which I thought it actually lasted a whole lot longer than that, but it actually ended the year after we got married.
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I wonder why it ended.
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Why are they not still using it?
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Does a body good?
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I mean, doesn't that sound a lot better than got milk or, even worse, milk life?
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It does sound a lot better, and in this episode we're going to challenge the assertion of does it really do the body?
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good.
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Hey sister, welcome to the Power on Plants podcast.
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Are you tired of staring into the fridge wondering what to eat so you can just feel better?
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Do you want to avoid spending hours in the kitchen making complicated meals in the name of health?
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Would you love to leave fatigue behind and finally have the energy to do all the things you want to do?
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Hi, we're Jared and Anita Roussel, Christ followers, healthcare professionals, parents of four and big fans of great tasting food.
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We, too, tried exercising more, eating natural and clean foods, but we still found ourselves struggling with what we thought were changes that come with age or bad genes, and we weren't finding answers to traditional routes.
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So we dug into the research and created our secret nutritional weapon sustainable plant-based living.
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The truth is, you can eat more whole plant foods, and it's not hard.
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You just need the way.
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That's realistic and delicious so you never feel deprived.
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If you're ready to enjoy your meals, no longer be held back by your health struggles and actively live your life, then you're in the right place.
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So grab your favorite plant-based cup of happy pop in those earbuds and let's get started.
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Hey there, sunshine.
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We are so glad to have you joining us again today, and if this is your first time, welcome to your new whole food plant-based family.
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You're going to find that things are a little bit different around here than some of the other plant-based platforms, and that's okay.
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We've all got to be ourselves, right.
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And this is where you're going to get the real down-to-earth information.
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We're laying it out for you piece by piece, because Power on Plants is all about helping you to finally feel your best, to learn how to stay on the plant-based wagon, or the healthy eating wagon, if you've never tried plant-based before.
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We hear all the time you're struggling, you don't know what to do to stay on a path that's going to keep you well and make you feel good so you can live your God-given calling.
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After all, that's why we're all here.
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You have a purpose, you have a mission, you have a reason.
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You were created, and what we want to ask today is does milk really do the body good?
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Is milk, is dairy going to set you up for the life that you want to live?
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Now you're talking to the real, bonafide dairy queen I've dubbed myself this years ago.
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Actually, Jared might have dubbed me this years ago.
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He didn't call me the specific name, but there's this little story about when he went shopping.
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If you haven't heard it, go back and listen to the other podcast episodes.
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You'll find out how I got the name Dairy Queen.
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But it's a real thing.
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I used to love dairy.
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Now am I telling you?
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Oh, all of a sudden, everything became roses and butterflies and I got over my love of cheesy and creamy things.
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No, I still love cheesy and creamy things and I still eat cheesy and creamy things, but I don't eat dairy anymore, and there's a reason for that.
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And I also the best part, I don't miss it.
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See, one of the biggest keys for you in escaping the health struggles that are holding you back is getting away from the foods that are sabotaging your health.
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And the way those foods are sabotaging your health is that they have a stronghold on you because you love the way they taste or you love the texture they bring to your food, Like dairy and cheese.
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We love those foods.
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I grew up on those.
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I was a sour cream fanatic.
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I don't think there was a dairy product you didn't like.
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No, no, there was not.
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I mean, it was sour cream and dairy yogurt and milk and ice cream you name the kind of cheese.
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I was pretty much a specialist on it.
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I had tried them all.
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I love cheese.
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I think it was a family thing.
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Honestly, my whole family was like that.
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Still to this day, many members of my family that I know of are just cheese crazy.
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They put it on everything.
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There's a reason I was having vascular trouble.
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There was a reason I was addicted to it.
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Yeah, it's a real thing.
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Jared's going to probably get into that today I have a feeling he is.
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But there's a reason.
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These foods are actually addictive.
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So the problem you're having and breaking free from them isn't really your fault.
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I don't want you walking around holding a lot of guilt and thinking it's got to be me.
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I keep being told do this, do that, and I've tried it and I lost 25, 50, 100 pounds in the past and then I gained it all back.
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Well, there's a reason that that's happening to you and it's not your fault.
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You just didn't know how to break free, and we're going to show you exactly how to do that in our upcoming course accelerator.
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I'm getting more and more excited by the day.
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We've laid out this course and I'm in the middle of taping it for you, getting all the final touches on the PDF guides, everything you're going to need to walk you step by step to plant based joy, so that this lasts.
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Why would you want to take on another lifestyle that doesn't last?
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You eat it.
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You can push through for a while.
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You don't want to set yourself up in a quote lifestyle and you've just changed the word from diet to lifestyle because it makes you feel good, but really you're applying those same old methods to this new way of eating.
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That's not going to work.
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You've got to learn the framework, the formula for breaking free, and that framework includes learning how to get off the foods that are keeping you stuck, such as dairy, but you've got to have the foods that taste good to replace it.
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But why in the world do you even not want to eat dairy?
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That's what we're talking about today, because sometimes you don't understand why it matters.
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Oh, it's not that bad If you're like us.
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Before, we started Whole Food, plant-based, when we were our sickest and we thought we were eating healthy and clean because we were eating meat and all this dairy, but we were eating it from a farm and it had no added hormones and it was the clean version, right, but still we were sick.
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Why is that?
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Because it's not healthy for our bodies, and Jared's going to talk a little bit about why that is.
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First of all, is milk healthy?
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Now, it would seem like it is, because we've been hearing these messages all of our lives.
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Milk, it's nature's most perfect food, and that's true for the baby, so for humans.
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Human milk is perfect for human babies and for cows.
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Their milk is perfect for calves and every other animal.
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It's perfect for them during that stage of their lives.
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And it's perfect for growing a calf into a what?
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Into a cow.
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Right, so right.
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There is one simple reason we don't want to eat dairy, and this is why we're struggling with weight.
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If you're eating a lot of milk products, you're eating something that is based on a liquid that was created to grow a calf into a cow.
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Over a very short span of time if you think about it.
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Humans are the only thing on this planet that drink milk from another species after infancy.
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No other animal drinks the milk of another animal After infancy.
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No other animal drinks the milk of another animal.
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Now I do not equate humans and animals.
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I make that differentiation.
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So we are not animals, we're humans.
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But nowhere on the face of this planet does anything drink the milk of something else, and especially not after infancy.
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So that right there already gets my wheels turning, thinking, well, why are we doing this?
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I mean, that does make it seem kind of odd, kind of strange.
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But we're told milk, or we're told milk is nature's most perfect food.
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And so we grow up with these messages and we think, oh, pure milk.
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And it's always portrayed in this positive light.
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So we have this association and we know milk has calcium in it.
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We need calcium, so thus we must be milked.
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And then we get here all the advertising on TV, radio, magazines, billboards.
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So now we just have it ingrained in us that this is pure food.
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And then there was the food guide pyramid that we grew up with.
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That didn't help a whole lot either.
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I don't even remember where milk was on.
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That whole pyramid Dairy was on there, it was on there and it was pretty big from what I remember, and this was endorsed by the US Department of Agriculture.
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So our government is telling us that we need this, but somewhere along the way milk does a body good disappeared.
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Well, why is that?
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Well, there were different health groups that were starting to challenge that whole assertion of is it really a health food?
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And what is found in studies and research is that it's actually not good for us.
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Studies show that it causes inflammation.
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One of the key components of that aspect is within milk.
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There's lactose, which is a sugar made of two simple sugars.
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You have glucose hey, we know glucose but then there's galactose, which is found in milk.
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Now, you just mentioned lactose there, and we know that a lot of people are lactose intolerant, right?
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Correct.
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So it's interesting because you were mentioning to me earlier this week about an interesting milk product for people who are lactose intolerant.
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I want you to share a little bit about that, because that just blew my mind.
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Well, lactose is the primary sugar found in milk.
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Now, as infants, we have the enzymes needed to break that down.
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As infants, we have the enzymes needed to break that down, but as we get older, we lose that enzyme because we should no longer need it beyond infancy, and many people are lactose intolerant.
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So when they drink milk, it causes a lot of gas and bloating because they don't digest it, but the gut bacteria do and it creates gas and it creates uneasiness.
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So what Anita is alluding to is there's a special milk out on the market that is supposed to be for people that are lactose intolerant.
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Now, I used to think that they pulled the lactose out of that, but they don't.
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What they do is they add the enzyme that we no longer have, which is lactase, so that it pre-breaks it down for you.
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Which is lactase, so that it pre-breaks it down for you, but you still have the glucose and the galactose, which are the simple sugars that make lactose.
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The significance of that is is part of the inflammatory process found in milk comes from the galactose.
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Isn't that interesting.
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So you're still getting the inflammatory molecule drinking the milk that supposedly helps you digest the lactose, but it's already pre-digested for you in this product, so you're still getting the byproducts of the lactose.
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You are, and the significance of that is is that we know with research that it's the galactose that creates inflammation.
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We're told drink calcium because it makes your bones stronger.
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Numerous studies have been shown, with as many as 100, 200,000 participants in these studies, that the cultures that drink more milk or eat more dairy actually have a higher incidence of hip fractures.
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Yeah, they have more broken bones.
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I remember reading that in several different studies.
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Yeah, it should blow our mind.
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I mean, what in the world?
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So if we need milk products for calcium, for strong bones, wouldn't it make sense that if we're drinking more milk than other cultures, we would have stronger bones and less fractures?
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But that's not what we find.
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According to the research, we find that we actually have higher numbers of fractures.
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Some things amiss there.
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And as people get older, they get more susceptible, as we have a reduced capacity to detoxify or metabolize galactose.
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So as you get older and you have a higher risk of fractures.
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What do people typically tell you?
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Drink more milk, eat more dairy.
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It has calcium, yikes.
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Well, this is a question that I ask my patients.
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Where do cows get their calcium?
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Cows adult cows aren't drinking milk.
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Where do they get the calcium that goes into the milk that then goes to the calf?
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These are the questions that we should all be asking, not just swallowing the marketing messages.
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Where do cows get their calcium Right?
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They get it from plants.
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They get it from plants.
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I mean, ideally they should be eating grass and dandelions and things growing out in the field.
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Now in the modern food industry they're probably eating corn and soybeans and other food lot type products, not fresh grass roaming out on the fields Like we like to think, on the side of the carton where it says happy cows Probably most of those cows aren't all that happy, not like we think they are.
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So that was one element of dairy.
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Another one and this really I would say it was a shock, a surprise, but it shouldn't have been.
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Dairy is very high in hormones and I never thought about that and we've talked about this before on our podcast how we would buy the no hormone added milk never really thinking it already naturally has hormones in it.
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We have to ask these questions Seriously.
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Why did I never ask that for so many years?
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I was adamant about buying dairy cheese milk and I was so particular to make it healthy for me and my family, I was trying to do the right thing.
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So particular to make it healthy for me and my family, I was trying to do the right thing.
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And we're not saying, oh, shame on you.
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We're saying shame on the companies for making us think that we're doing something better when we're buying a product that is filled with hormones by nature just because of what it is.
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It is a female cow's mammary secretion that is filled with hormones by nature.
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And if you were the same, you're not alone.
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In a survey done, 50% of people had no idea that it just naturally had hormones in it.
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So now the next question is well, what hormones does it have in it?
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Naturally, there's estrogen.
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It's got a high amount of estrogen.
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Estrogen, it's got a high amount of estrogen.
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And cows only produce milk when they're pregnant or have been pregnant, and that process of lactating, making milk, has continued.
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Or are kept pregnant.
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Let's bring that in.
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I don't want to get into animal cruelty.
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Well, they're kept pregnant and that takes me in also to the Holstein cow was actually modified genetically to where it could get pregnant while it was already nursing, which under normal circumstances.
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If an animal or human is breastfeeding an infant, that's going to inhibit a further pregnancy Now, not 100%, but that's kind of how it goes and it makes sense because, as you're taking care of one infant, it may draw resources from the body if you get pregnant again.
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But with the Holstein cow it was genetically quote unquote improved so that it could still get pregnant even while it's producing milk.
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But what happens during that is that you have all those hormones of pregnancy and where do they go?
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They go into that milk, into the milk.
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So you have higher levels of estrogen.
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So there's a study where they looked at six boys when they drank two cups of milk.
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A couple of hours later, their estrogen levels quadrupled.
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Wow, quadrupled.
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That ought to shock you right now.
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They did a similar study in men.
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When they drank a liter of milk, their hormone levels didn't quadruple, but they raised significantly.
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And we're worried about tofu.
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Just wrap your mind around that for a minute, please.
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Let's get real here.
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Tofu is not the problem.
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People honest to goodness.
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We know people who won't let their families eat tofu because they're worried that it's going to make the boys less masculine.
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You're not going to eat enough tofu to do that, and the estrogens in tofu are not the same as the ones in dairy.
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They're actually beneficial to our body and they're not estrogens.
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The phytoestrogens found in soy are not estrogens.
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They just can activate certain specific estrogen receptors that have a protective effect and they do it more weakly.
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Meaning W-E-A-K, it's a milder effect, so it's protective.
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We know that it protects against breast and prostate cancer, so it's not exactly the same thing.
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But estrogen is not the only story, though, here Wait, but so we've got estrogen in tofu that we know is protected because it's linking onto those estrogen receptors.
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Correct the beta estrogen receptors which actually inhibit cell proliferation, and they also will actually stimulate nitric oxide production in your blood vessels to help lower blood pressure.
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So it's actually a protective effect.
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Not so with the estrogen in milk and milk products.
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No, because they are estrone, estriol, estradiol.
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These are the natural hormones that we find in our bodies.
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It quadruples those levels in children.
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It significantly can raise it in men.
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But estrogen is not the only story.
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What's even, higher than the estrogens are prolactin, which prolactin is a hormone in the body that stimulates the breast tissue to make milk.
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Well, in women it stimulates that, but in men it can actually inhibit the production of testosterone.
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So you have higher levels of estrogen and then the prolactin can decrease the production of testosterone.
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Now.
