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Right, so what can you do? What are the things you can do to get to the root of the issue? Because the problem is, again, we're trying to get a fast fix to a problem. Instead of getting to the root of the issue, what's causing the reflux, what's causing the pain to be there in the first place,
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I would say, cuz you're talking about needing a fast fix. And it's not always a fast fix to our problems. And now, it's not some that's long and drawn out. But I think there actually is a bit of a fast fix to this one because one of the major contributing factor you're
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listening to the smarter Healthy Living podcast where we firmly believe that getting healthy should never feel like torture, where your host, Jarrod and Anita Roussel were college sweethearts, and health professionals who help you redefine what getting healthy looks like using a whole food plant based lifestyle. It's time to hear from the experts and learn the best tips and tricks that helped others get beyond overwhelm, to create a vibrant life they love. If you're sick and tired of being sick, and tired, you're in the right place. So pull up a virtual chair, grab your matcha latte, and let's get started. Welcome back. We're glad you can join us today. I want to share with you a little bit of my history and let you know what it was like growing up in my house. So this is just one little tidbit but when I was growing up and I was a little girl My dad always had beside his special recliner. You know, did your dad have a special recliner? Well, mine did
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the one that would wear out and had holes and you kind of sunk in Yeah.
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Well, he had the recliner, he loved that thing.
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And, and then at one point, he had a rocker and that was his thing. So he always had a special chair beside his special chair. You could always find just a stand like a little table. You know, you comment in table I guess it was really just beside his chair though. It wasn't like it was beside a couch. And on it he would keep some of his favorite snacks and things. And right beside those snacks, which for the reason they were these things were there was probably because those snacks where there is you know a huge huge can of roll lights or times and we didn't go to Costco back then. I don't even know where he got I
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chose Costco was available then.
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I don't think it was I think I'm showing my age now.
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Actually, that may not be I guess it is because I feel good for my age. But still. Anyway, there were the snacks right beside his chair. And right beside the snacks were the were the times and I remember him popping Tums or Rolaids like they were candy. I think because we get this idea in our mind that they're not prescriptions.
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They're just over the counter. They're available freely everywhere.
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Yeah. And so you're just thinking, well, it's just kind of like candy. I mean, they're a free for all, it helps my stomach feel better when I get reflux. And I've got the acid burning up, you know, through my chest. And so I'm gonna go ahead and take that, and it's gonna make me feel better. And he lived on them daily. And I know he's not the only one. I mean, I go to other friend's houses, and their dad would have the same thing by his chair. And we have other friends in our lives now that you go to their house and you see the big Costco sized ones. I think they're actually about double the size of the big ones he used to have now, they're huge. What are you doing just chopping them down like a snack. But we don't think we don't think about them being set a medication, because they're just they're available. They're right there next to the candies at the checkout stand. And or they're right even if they're in the pharmacy, you just don't think it's like copy proof in which we'll get to that later.
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But you think about ibuprofen, aspirin times Rolaids, and we just think about them having any kind of side effect or effect on us. I mean, clearly they're safe. They've been around for years, there's no prescription
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required. And if a little is good, more must be better.
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And it makes you feel better if you've got an upset stomach and so you just take it without really thinking about is there a consequence.
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Now I'm showing my age because I need an I have actually known each other for 30 years been married almost 28 of those.
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I don't know where it's gone either. It's been fast and fun. But
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I remember him also having that little bottle of Tom's the Rambo colored ones usually like the fruit flavor always there. And when we would visit sometimes we'd stay there because if we lived out of town, we would come and visit and stay with them for a few days. And then we would eat and then it was retired to the recliner Sit down. Now he also had a habit of offering snacks after the meal
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right after the meal. You could sit down for five or 10 minutes. It's like you're hungry. You want set the date we just Hey, Daddy, we just want some chips.
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He's back to what you were referring to earlier on his stand. He had an assortment of snacks right there within arm's reach. It wasn't
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just that it was the Danish cookies, the chips, the candy, there was always something there and I think one of the ways that Well, he's a cook. I mean, he he was on the merchant marine ship. And he was the chef there on the Great Lakes for his crew. And they all loved him for making things. And then they under restaurants. So I grew up in the family restaurant. And, you know, he just he loved to cook, and he loved to eat, but they didn't know a different way to eat.
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They didn't know that the food the way they were preparing it, it was better than just storebought. Because they were making everything, romaine.
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Yeah, so it was definitely better. It always tasted amazing. They were incredible cooks. And that took a lot of time in that kitchen. I mean, I've since we've grown older, I've taken time to recreate a lot of their recipes, in a way that still make us feel good, that are really quick to make, because I can't spend that much time in the kitchen. But he was gifted at that. And so was my mother, they were both amazing cooks.
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Oh, and I never saw a single one of them use a recipe.
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It was just a gift. And they would just throw stuff together.
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And it was amazing. Absolutely.
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And one thing about your dad, too, is I would also say he took pride in what he did with the cooking. Absolutely, he really he made sure it was delicious.
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Yeah, absolutely. And that's why I think he would sit down and after a meal, and he would say, Hey, are you hungry, because he showed his love through that. But the whole point of this was to kind of give you an insight into also how we grew up. And, you know, we understand a lot of the patterns that people get into and just not knowing and intentionally doing these things to our bodies that set us up for a long term difficulty and pain and struggle and stress in our bodies and just being tired all the time and fatigued and they just didn't know. And so he knew he was hurting, and he was having reflux, and it burned.
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And so he wanted to take something that would calm it down. And when it worked, he would just pop another one and take another one and take another one as the days went on, not knowing or thinking about what that cost. And so today we want to talk about what are some of the reasons you don't want to do that? And what are some other things you can do to get to the source? Because really, when you take those things are Rolaids, the terms, my Atlanta different things like that to comment, you're not really dealing with what's causing it in the first place. And so the damage keeps being done over and over again.
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Because you're still feeling it, Sam before you take it. And not only that, then there are there are side effects to Taylor
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and many other issues.
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One with taking the antacid, you're neutralizing the stomach acid. Now you're probably not neutralizing it all the way to the pH of water. But you're counteracting some of the acidity. And it actually has important functions.
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Yeah, cuz you got to ask yourself, why is that there? Why is the stomach acid acidic?
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That way for no
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reason. It wasn't just a peculiarity it was it's there for a reason. One of the one one of the reasons is that it does help to get rid of or kill off bacteria, viruses, fungi, whatever is present in the food.
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Exactly. It doesn't kill off all of them. Some can get through, but a large majority, it does help to disinfect your food.
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And so if the back if the acid is not there, then the bad bacteria can thrive that come in through the food or in any other way that come through your digestive tract. Right?
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You lose that protective mechanism. Yes.
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Makes perfect sense. And so then, so we're taking these acids, they're neutralizing the acid somewhat, and then the acid can't do its job to fight off the bad bacteria that would it would normally kill the bacteria, if it was acidic, and then you've got the fact that the acid is there also to continue to break down your fate.
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Yes, that is very important. There are enzymes in your stomach that need to be in an acidic environment to actually activate so that if you get rid of the acid, those enzymes don't work like they're supposed to. So you're losing that digestion in your stomach.
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Makes perfect sense. And so then you're not getting the proper break down. And it's protein. I mean, it's those acids help to break down proteins in your stomach, and each part of your digestive tract, there are different functions. And so I would think that if you're not doing that in the stomach, then you're exactly you're not going to do that down the line.
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Because there's nowhere else in your digestive tract that has that high acidity, it's actually just the opposite. Once the material from your stomach goes into your digestive, the the sorry, the intestines, the small intestines, that acid actually get to neutralized so that the next part of digestion can happen.
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So then the other question is what is in the medication? I mean, don't they have calcium? Correct? A lot
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of them are calcium.
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Yes, you have calcium carbonate, calcium citrate,
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and so calcium is good for you. Right? So it's popping a lot of calcium like that would be good for you though, because a lot of people take it for account for the calcium, correct?
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That is correct. So
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what's the research show in their research? Well, the calcium
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when taken that way. I think a lot of times, people A calcium our bodies needed calcium is good for our body, hey, here's a source of calcium, they must be good for us there must be a source of calcium, right, just like the supplement and then a lot of people do use it as a supplement. The problem with that, though, is it's not in the most usable form for your body. This is an inorganic, meaning it's not tied to the organic material present in your food. And so your body doesn't really know how to use it quite the same.
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So you're saying there that it's another extracted thing, it's been taken out and extracted from the normal form that it was created in again,
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I would even say it's may not even be the natural form, yes, because some of these calcium carbonate, that's what's in lime, limestone, right? They even get it from things like I think oyster shell, mussel shell, they'll take them and grind them up and use that as calcium carbonate. So this isn't even necessarily a natural form that you would use or that you would obtain from food.
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Makes sense. So
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okay, but then also, when you take that you get a high level of absorption. And this was something that surprised me when I learned it was that for up to eight hours after taking it, you can have elevated levels of calcium, calcium is actually a necessary component within the normal clotting of our blood. And what they have found is that having a high level in some individuals can actually make them more prone to clotting. And that can actually cause strokes, and other cardiovascular disease.
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So thickening of the blood, because you're taking the extra calcium studies are showing
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I mean, super high levels of calcium all at one time.
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So could that happen by you just sitting and popping terms on a daily basis? Just terms, terms terms, Rolaids, really truly
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based on the studies?
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Yes, there is a potential increased risk. Okay. I'm not saying everybody, obviously, everybody that takes is not dying from a stroke. Right?
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Right. But it does increase the risk, when it may not really be necessary in the first place to have to need those.
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Right. So what can you do? What are the things you can do to get to the root of the issue, because the problem is, again, we're trying to get a fast fix to a problem, instead of getting to the root of the issue, what's causing the reflux, what's causing the pain to be there in the first place,
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I would say, because you're talking about needing a fast fix. And it's not always a fast fix to our problems. And now, it's not something that's long and drawn out. But I think there actually is a bit of a fast fix to this one, because one of the major contributing factors to that upset stomach, and the term for that is dyspepsia. It's not always acid reflux, about half the cases, when we think we have quote, unquote, reflux, it's actually just our stomach is upset and has that that burning kind of sensation, but it's not an actual acid going up into our esophagus. It is known that high fat meals actually predispose you to those symptoms. I mean, they've done specific studies.
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And we won't go into all the details here. But they've done specific studies looking at high fat content in the stomach, and found that that will cause those sensations. Plus it can also relax the sphincter of the stomach, which is a little, it's a little muscular valve that keeps things from coming back up into your esophagus. And that can then lead to the acid coming back up. So if we eat meals that are lower in fat, like plant foods, which are naturally lower in fat, then you won't have that problem.
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So they found this problem specifically linked with eating high fat meals of animal products. Being dairy, one of the main causes of reflux, it's been linked in research, correct dairy, because it's very high in fat, animal fats, and also meats. That's what I saw from the research. Is that what you saw as well, what I've seen, yeah, okay. So those are the two things you can do is back off on eating those things, and then get your fiber because fiber keeps things moving through your system, right? A lot of the times of problems causes cause because there is a back up in the pipes so to speak, and things aren't moving through like they're supposed to. And so you start getting stomach cups,
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to what you're saying they're high fat meals do tend to stay in the stomach longer.
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So another thing that can cause reflux and be behind that is the fact that a lot of people were really tight clothing. And that can hinder digestion. So think about you know, if you're wearing Spanx or something like a girdle are very tight pants like that can cause problems, but let's just be real here.
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It's not only not comfortable, it can cause problems. And then along with that goes over eating. So if you've got that on and then you're eating beyond the point of being satisfied, that can cause reflux that can cause problems. And then a lot of us eat way too late. We either do like my dad was in the habit of doing where you ate your dinner and then you keep eating till you go to bed or you're drinking something right before
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But something else he did too Is he was a carpenter.
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So he would work very long days and then come home after sundown when he really couldn't work anymore. And then he would eat and do the snacks and then fall asleep to go to bed kind of early, and then wake up super early to do it all over again.
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Yeah, and you really don't want to eat near bedtime, like within three, three hour window really within three hours of bedtime. Because not only can it make it more difficult for you to digest your body needs to rest at night. And if you eat right close to bedtime, it can cause you to stay awake, because your body stays revved up your metabolism is going your body when it's supposed to be resting is trying to break down the food. And that makes it difficult for you to rest and also difficult to digest as well. So those are things that you want to stay away from doing and the things you want to do more is eat more plant foods and eat less of the animal products that are behind these things as research shows, and get the fiber in there. Because again, the animal products have absolutely no fiber, and that also is going to fuel your gut bacteria, it's going to feed them it is their food. So the good gut bacteria need that fiber, you've got to learn how to get more of these plants into your life in a way that you enjoy. That's easy to do, so that you're in and out of the kitchen and making great memories with your family and feeling great doing it.
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And one other common cause that I would like to share with you is that based on research, they have actually found some other very common causes for reflux are one coffee. And this was both caffeinated and decaffeinated.
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So it wasn't an issue of the caffeine, it was just something else present within coffee itself.
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And I've had that before with coffee. Honestly, since we've been eating healthy plant based, I don't get reflux, I used to get it quite often, I just don't get it anymore. The only time I get it is if I have some sort of coffee drink or something which I'm not a coffee drinker, I drink I do drink cacau though a lot. And I'll say a lot at least once a day usually and I don't get no, it doesn't bother me at all,
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which is not normally really high in caffeine, but it has a little bit and it does have some but it's not real high. Now I have an organic Swiss water decaf that I use.
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And moderate amounts of coffee don't really seem to bother me think maybe if I'm not really paying attention to drink a whole pot, it might bother my stomach a little bit. But that's not a norm. And it doesn't affect everybody that same way right now a couple of other things that are known to be very problematic with this our wine will alcohol things like wine. I don't know about beer as much, but I know wine can cause reflux. And maybe it's the alcohol plus the tannic acids found within the wine sugars,
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too. I think a lot of times with alcohol, some of it can be quite sweet. So I think maybe the sweeter ones can cause problems too.
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And then another Biggie is actually smoking, the nicotine, it's been linked
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in laser studies.
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Absolutely.
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And so if those are things that you have habits, and you have problems with reflux, that is something that you could stop, and it might reverse it for you.
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Absolutely. And the other thing is moving. I mean getting exercise is just getting your body moving, don't even think about the dreaded e word. We always work with people in different ways of finding ways to enjoy to get moving and actually enjoy it right. So think about it as just get moving moving more. And that starts. I mean, we know that we know that from experience, but we also know it from research that the more you move, the better things move through, right, so your digestion is just gonna work better.
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The more you move, the more things move through.
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Nice.
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But it's true. I mean, it keeps things active. It just helps. It just does. Alright, so let's bring this home.
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Okay, so to wrap it up, to have a big, honkin, sigh sized tab of Rolaids or times by your chair, your favorite Lazy Boy, not a good idea. Don't be popping those like candy.
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They're not candy, and they do have side effects. They can weaken the acid in your stomach, which is there to help fight off bacteria to kill bacteria and other invaders that come into your body through the digestive tract. Right. So we want to keep the acid there. But the other thing is it also keeps you from digestion, right digestion. So you can't digest your food if the acid isn't there that you need to break the food down.
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And next, getting too much calcium all at one time.
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Not like what you'd get in your food where it's a lower amount that you absorb slowly over time, but you get this big huge amount can actually cause problems like stroke, heart attack, because it makes your blood more easily prone to clotting.
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Makes sense. All right.
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What else do we talk about today? I know we just talked a lot
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and talked a lot. Yes, we did.
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